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title="Lessons from the dark side. Ulrich Herbert interviewed by Alison Abbott",
journal="Nature",
year="2008",
author="Herbert, Ulrich",
volume="451",
number="7180",
pages="755-755",
abstract="<p>[Abstract unavailable]</p><p>Language: en</p>",
language="en",
issn="0028-0836",
doi="10.1038/451755a",
url="http://dx.doi.org/10.1038/451755a"
}